LEIGH SALES: So it's not specifically that having a fallout with France causes problems, it's more the broader reputational issue you are saying. You know, it really it is a breach of trust, a breach of faith, and it has damaged Australia's, considerably, Australia's reputation for trustworthiness which is a very important asset whether it's in relation to between nations or in business or personal life. MALCOLM TURNBULL, PRIME MINISTER (2015-2018): Well, look I think it has been a very shameful episode as I have said earlier and at some length. What is the potential fallout for Australia from a frosty relationship with France?

First, just on the submarines, France is not a particularly tight ally of Australia. Malcolm Turnbull, thanks for being with us. He's currently at the Glasgow climate summit in his capacity as the chair of Australian Fortescue Future Industries. LEIGH SALES, PRESENTER: The former Australian prime minister Malcolm Turnbull brokered the subs deal when he was in office.